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Maybe they need to see what he is at the AHL level for awhile.
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You are selling Rittich a bit short. He had some difficult saves to make and some that were more routine that our goalies have let in. I agree. You want a backup to come into a game and look like he is ready. No excuses. He did that last year and he's doing it this year. I hope he gets a few games in to show he should be the guy backing up Smith. IMHO, he's underrated. 5 SO's last season and 2 already this year.
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Agreed. But they have that flexibility.
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Whether that is true or not, it's the best thing to say. He could have sent him for a conditioning stint, if the player agreed. How is he going to get enough games in the AHL if Gillies is being developed there? More than the NHL, but not enough to really improve him in a month or so. Just me I guess
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The team needs to see Rittich in nets. There is no other choice. Smith was groaning after one save where he did the splits. HE looked like he was really sore after that. Didn't seem to affect him, but he needs a game off. I think Rittich is ready. He's been playing very well as a backup in Stockton. He doesn;t seem to need to get into a rhythm of playing a certain number of games in a week. Overall, I think Gillies is the better starter over Rittich, but we aren't needing that right now.
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Seen time or need time - sure. Not an entire season. In some cases, the guy gets sent there to improve or get additional starts. Or he starts there and gets moved up.
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If the idea was to get Lack playing, they could have asked him and assigned him to the Heat on a conditioning stint, where he would not have to go through waivers. I believe they always have that option as long as the player agrees. Maybe he refused, but this doesn't sound like he was sent down to play. (see edit below; if true then it takes games away from Gillies) What is the benefit to having Lack take games away from Gillies? Maybe the ECHL is the best place for him. As for Parsons going from the CHL to the ECHL, I don't see this as a logical progression. Gillies went from the NCAA to AHL. MacDonald would have gone there if he was good enough. In general, most goalies never see time in the ECHL unless they are not that great or there is no room for them. Loaning a goalie to another AHL team is another option. EDIT: #Flames GM Brad Treliving on demotion of Eddie Lack: “He needs to get some games in. He’d be the first one to tell you, and it’s probably not completely fair with the amount of time he’s gotten so far, but he looks like he needs a reset and that’s what this is all about.”
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Why not use this one next time - "Oh yeah?". Ranks right up there with "Or not". Save yourself the 3 seconds next time.
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https://www.echl.com/playeraward/parsons-named-ccm-echl-goaltender-week It doesn't make sense to you for some reason. He was signed to be a pro and develop into a NHL goalie. Had there not been two prospect/goalies in the AHL, he would be there, whether you agree or not. They could have left him in junior if lower level competition was all he needed. Big picture, we have 1 NHL goalie, 2 AHL goalies, 2 ECHL goalies, and one CHL goalie ready for pro level. All of these are signed by the Flames to NHL contracts.
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He was recently recognized for his great work. Goalie of the month IIRC or was it player of the week. He's playing as a pro. They signed him because he was ready for pro.
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Parsons was sent to the ECHL because we had 2 goalies in the AHL. His development is more important than Lack. If it makes sense to have him play in the AHL then you do it. He is doing well in the ECHL so it makes sense to try him at the next level.
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If he clears he will be at best a backup in AHL. They have to decide if they want to move up Parsons. If they do Lack goes to KC. It doesn't matter if they want him to get his game back. He has to be in a place he doesn't disrupt the other goalie development.
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I see the two moves as different. Freddie was a roster move to free up a spot and was just in case they needed it later on. He's still #14 here. Once he plays 10 games, he would have to go on waivers again. Lack is a move out of the NHL. No way (I have been wrong before) he plays here again anytime soon. They are going to bring up someone else, or they already have a deal for a backup. A real one.
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The deal with waivers is that once he clears they have 30 days or he has to go through waivers again. This is a sign he needs to go to the AHL. He may be called up but I think his time is done IMHO
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The Official Calgary Flames "New Arena" thread
travel_dude replied to DirtyDeeds's topic in Flames Talk
That's more of a thing that Notley would say, to benefit more than one city for a province sponsored bid. Where was EDM in the last Olympics? What a tool. -
You are absolutely correct. We were able to even it up about 3 minutes after the 1st goal against. Before that it was a little ugly.
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Holtby saves two close in, where the Flames were stickhandling in the crease almost. Bennett. Freddie. And there were a couple of chances just slightly off. The Flames easily could have had 2-3 more. Both goalies were very good. The Flames have started taking over games with their offense and smart defensive plays, including Smith's.
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Almost the entire coaching staff gets canned, yet he manages to avoid the knife. Goaltending has been a failure here in every year he's been on staff. JJ can probably give you stats on the careers that started promising then died. Maybe they weren't any good once they got to the AHL or NHL, but if something isn't working, why keep going back to it. Same coach, same result. Different league, same result.
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He's not just a coach for the starters, he's a development coach. He was the Heat's goalie coach from 2011 to 2014 then Flames till present. With all the different players he has coached, have any of them actually done anything? Besides Smith, the only promising players left are far away from him. It might be difficult to draw a line from the coach to the failures, but OTOH, he has no success to hang his hat on. Not one.
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That doesn't make sense. They look good on paper because they are good players. Top 5 as good individuals as any team's top 5. Their usage and the style of play dictates how well they do as units.
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The Official Calgary Flames "New Arena" thread
travel_dude replied to DirtyDeeds's topic in Flames Talk
Zima, you have to be careful when you base opinions on things said in the media. Sometimes they are trying to create controversy over nothing. Sometimes they are repeating their own opinions. Sometimes they are dead wrong. Your opinion here is welcome, but if you make statements that something is a fact, someone is going to call you on it. Even if it may be close to true. -
I'm thinking two things. One is that Lack gets DEMOTED, not just sent to the AHL. Lack then wouldn't disturb the rotation there. Second is that Parsons comes in and gets better coaching. Gillies continues on his 50-60% starts. I would say in most cases you don;t want your prospects there.
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It's not 2 bad starts. It's lack-lustre play in every period he's played. Doesn't shut the door when he comes in on relief. His best performance was letting in only 2 in 40 against STL. They need to move on. Rittich is probably best suited and doesn't compromise the rest of the farm. Rittich comes up, Parsons splits time with Gillies.
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Listening to Gully before and after the game, he seems to be the one that "knows" what Eddie Lack is. Before the game, he talks about him in Vancouver and how he knows what he can do. Afterwards he talks about how the shots were unstoppable except for maybe one. It almost sounded like he made the case to pick up Lack in the first place. A 7th for a 6th and getting rid of Kanzig. Not much there. A player we end up buying out. Taking $1.375m in salary off them when they had just got Darling is a win for them. Most people here panned the SMith trade, because of the cost and his likelyness to not be an upgrade. He's done well by getting some wins that could have been losses and kept us in close games. Smith has also had really bad games, some we ended up winning. As far as running him out of town, how many periods of bad play do you want to watch. How many starts can you afford to risk on a goalie not showing enough ability to get a win. 12 goals against, 5.29 GAA and a SV% of .813. None of that points to a guy you should keep in the game. If we had no goalie prospects or anyone under NHL contract in the AHL, then we would be in a different situation.
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I think we are agreeing, but let's fight about it anyway. We brought in Lack because BT wasn't sure that Rittich or Gillies could do the job as a NHL backup. He went out and got Lack for that, rightly or wrongly. The only way it makes sense to keep Lack is if he can win games. They didn't bring him here to lose. I haven't seen a goalie that is poised to win a bunch of relief games, it looks like a guy that has lost him positioning and confidence. Sending him to the minors is the only fair thing to do if there is nobody interested in him (Hello Vegas). Give him 50% of the games down there if possible to get him back in game shape. If he falters down there, then you know Parsons gets the call to the AHL.
