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That is good thinking... the flames have that young future goaltending potential but still need to, "...add a good piece." "For the right price.", for sure, as in not selling the farm for one but they gotta reach into their pockets and get a good deal. Nothing reduces all risk in hockey; any well made decision can fall flat but the fans are growing tired of the present goaltending. The fans (and the players) need a new figurehead they can start out with, and get behind next season.
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DEVIOUSLY GOOD HUMOR !!
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I guess things could be worse but can you imagine another year with the same goaltending situation? Fans get tired after awhile. There are other ways to spend your time, no matter how much you love the game.
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There is some solid information. Thanks
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Ya, that's what I was getting at I think. The 1st overallers should be worth something, and are they their best players (McDavid aside)? You guys probably want to talk some more trades and dealings. I am going to watch the rest of the third period of the Sharks and Preds game 2.
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Wow, never heard anything that funny and it wasn't even one of my good ones OK overstocked with 1st overallers and good prospects. They don't want to play in Edmonton, and Edmonton wouldn't be able to afford to keep them all.
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This was in the days way before talk of a cap. Maybe you can find those numbers; I hate digging around for the details. This was something that I heard way back in the olden days I hope I don't have my head in my elbow on this one. It wouldn't be the first time but I am not a man of instant statistics and numbers recall. I have the gist of things and I go on that. Here is a Mark Twain quote that applies: "There are three kinds of lies - lies, damned lies, and statistics!" Cover up! How dare you! Bullwinkle: You just leave it to my pal Rock. He's the brains of the outfit. General: And what does that make you? Bullwinkle: What else? The executive. Just kiddin Flyer. RE: "Remember the Canadiens had one of the lowest payrolls in the league and they were the contender. Do you want to win a cup or do you want to make the best buck? They held together a team of fine players (goaltenders included) who wanted to win cups." I looked around a bit on the net, and I couldn't find NHL team payroll comparisons for the 60s 70s etc.. The oldest was 1989. I guess I just have to leave it with my memory of that being the situation back there a ways.
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'Franchise goalie'... that has a nice ring to it. No, don't go blowing away the strong core to get a goalie, at least not yet. No, hands off the Godreau and the other strong players. It's not like the Flames are an overstocked team like Edmonton. I mentioned that the Canadiens were strong, you could almost say because they had a smaller payroll and a mandate to build a Strong team for the Sole Purpose. If that looks like players and the organization were buying a cup, so what go ahead and do it. It's all dough dough business but what about the cup in a crowded league of cap teams. I posted this before for a laugh (with an undertone of truth) but maybe a lot of the members aren't antique enough to remember cartoon character Boris Badanov. I post it again: Fearless Leader: Badenov, you know why I called you in on this job? Boris: Because I'm trustworthy, loyal, brave, and efficient? Fearless Leader: No, because you work cheap. Boris: That too!
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No, it's the same guy for pete's sake. I was yoking around; being lighthearted. I will probably affectionately use that moniker for JH for some time to come. I will spell it Godreau for clarity. There are no bads or mistakes going on. I hope they get his name right when they dump him I'm enjoying this whole thread. Ya, he is obviously franchise player potential, and the org is culturing that idea for him (and Monahan). I mean the fans and media have already nearly 'Iggied' him. You are 100% right that size has nothing to do with being pretty well untradeable (at this point) but in a hard assed game such is playoff hockey, size has got something to do with it. I say again though, to whatever Bennett critics may be listening, don't throw him under the bus quite yet. He has a lot of growing to do. I can see something great in him too. Lets look at goalies without blowing away the strong members of the core.
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I think a super goalie is THE most important thing in a Stanly Cup win but even a super goalie can't hold up the world. I think the Flames need that proven tender that will allow them to make calculated changes to the roster and team play, while not wondering so much if losses are the fault of the goaltending or not, someone they can depend on back there. The Flames have to put the best goalie they can out there as a starter. Goaltending needs to be top notch now and into the building future. It doesn't have to be the same goalie during that period, just the best possible goalie/s fit available. There will be flow in transition of the right players and goalies. To put a 'maybe' in there is not optimum reasoning at anytime. Let's face it, the team has to come up with money to purchase while keeping the strong players that are going to fit that strong team. Remember the Canadien had one of the lowest payrolls in the league and they were the contender. Do you want to win a cup or do you want to make the best buck? They held together a team of fine players (goaltenders included) who wanted to win cups. Start with that mentality... Iggy seemed to have that attitude. OK, but I'm nuts and my back is getting sore.
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If truculence is a word Burke likes, I will be sure to stay away from it. It wouldn't be all Godrow's fault if the Flames made the playoffs or not, absolutely not. Ovi contributes though in other aforementioned ways too. There is no comparison IMO between the two players. I don't hate Godrow. I think he needs a certain strong well rounded team around him. Ovi and the Caps have yet another crack at it this year. That will be interesting. You know when you are playing hockey with a very skilled player but you would pick a different guy because he has more tools in many areas of the game? That's how I feel, that's all. Go Johnny Go!
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Wow. I deserve whatever flack comes for voicing such an angle. Sure Godrow is quite the commodity right now. Time will tell what kind of a team he would need to be on to win a cup. Answer to your first question: No. I don't think I actually said that; I will go back and check. I would have said that if that was what I meant but some people throw Bennett's name around like he's expendable weight. His game will shine when he develops physically. Answer to your second question: Yes, just ask anyone, but please don't hold that against me.
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No, Godrow of the Flames I had never heard of this word truculence; I had to look it up Disposed or eager to fight or engage in hostile opposition; belligerent. 2. Showing or expressing bitter opposition or hostility; aggressively defiant. Godrow is extremely talented. He is truculent in getting goals not fighting minutes. 78 points in 79 game is unarguably good for any player in any year but those are not playoff performance indicators. Look at the shrinking Sedin sisters; they are/were all stars too, and have been crucial for the Canucks to compete. Who can argue any of that? What it would take to convince me would be substantial playoff success. There is only one way to know for sure but it takes more than offense to win a cup.
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Everyone in Calgary treats Goodrow like a god. He is undeniably a highly skilled player but I still wonder if he is too small. Look at the hard hitting playoff games this season so far, and imagine him in there. I know, this angle will draw a lot of flack, with descriptions of where the direction of the game is going, etc.. He would command a top trade (not saying it should happen necessarily) but the media and fans would never stop crying. The Ducks won't want him because of his size. Bennett will develop into a star.
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That all makes sense but it wouldn't hurt to build around a proven goalie (s) for a few years either; not necessarily Bishop...but someone proven. The dollars and cents sense is always there.
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Bishop is only 29 but he would bring some experience too..................
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HEY lou44291 HEY MAC331 I hope either one of you is right. That would sound like a solid kickstart to next season! It will be fun to see how The Dolts do in the next round and how that might affect thing$
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RIGHT ON LOL LOL
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Fearless Leader: Badenov, you know why I called you in on this job? Boris: Because I'm trustworthy, loyal, brave, and efficient? Fearless Leader: No, because you work cheap. Boris: That too!
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5.7 is quite a bit. Do you think Calgary can find that kind of dough? How much is Ramo making?
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Why would Pittsburgh want to separate a strong tandem? How much are they both being paid?
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That's right. You demand all the insurance on purchase you are going to pay for it. Don't anybody get any ideas about moving Bennett. He looks like another Gary Roberts. Hands off
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I could sure go along with that thinking while there was still very good potential coming up the system. That thinking doesn't get in the way of absolutely needing to place a proven power in net. Regular season games are where the rubber hits the road (or in this case the pipe). Lose 5 games and your in trouble again.
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What about Niklas Backstrom? Is he absolutely off the slate with Calgary? He would make a great backup, IMO. If he isn't a hot item, maybe he would stay for le$$; maybe his past injury/s will work in Calgary'$ favor.
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Maybe he will play for less if nobody else wants him. I'm dreaming but that's ok.
