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This could help explain why Miromanov is in the deal. Multiple people saying Vegas isn't done. So even 1 or 2 players for Hanifin wouldn't help them make other deals.

Be far more embarrassing for the "insiders" than the teams

coming off major Knee surgery. Very curious target for sure. Obviously I know that won't be it. Edit: This is actually likely a Vegas throw in/depth for the rest of the season type

Toffoli hasn't exactly been a great fit. Probably not interested in paying him, just like the flames weren't. Plus they've got other options they could be using don't think it means anything in terms of Markstrom

I would be shocked if the deal is not already done. I thikn Dreger's "working on it" comment is more about him trying to find out the return. These deals are complex and it's likely harder to get the return here because i'm sure Vegas is busy talking to Hanifin and his agents.

Very possible but him on LTIR is not needed to complete this trade. They have the space to do it without him

10 games or 24 days its not automatic. Team has to use it

IR= roster space LTIR= cap credits

IR does not provide cap relief.

this would make sense if true

Not a true sign and trade. But I don't think it will be hard to get one done

The return is not yet known

Thought about this. Would be a fair deal IMO

If you want to really go there, are the Flames the ones leaking the Tampa interest because who they want to trade with needs to up their price...

Agreed, maybe a 2nd would be the highwater mark for me. Might get a player for player deal. I'd still do it because I would value the spot for a young player more. Put Pelletier/Coronato on that line and watch them flourish. Plus I don't think Mang stays here once his contract is up.

Ryan Leslie and a guy on twitter aren't exactly sources you'd use to get news out though. The guy on twitter has broken some stuff and I think he has connections to the Flames via Vladar (works with him through a car dealership), but that's not exactly a good outlet to get your news/fake news out. Think he's also admitted he knows some agents that give him stuff. I think if the Flames wanted to spread something they'd use the mainstream sources. That's why I still think Hanifin is traded and it just may be he's indicated to some he's somewhat torn. I think the news about upping the offer is likely just bad intel which is pretty common in today's social media age.

From the get go the flames have made it clear they want to keep Hanifin. There been their priority. Trading him is a result it’s not a preference. Ryan Leslie on Monday commented he’s not ready to close to the door on Hanifin. Leslie doesn’t just throw stuff out there. im not expecting it but I don’t think it should come as a massive shock if the Flames don’t deal Hanifin.

RJ isn't good though. Be a really bad fit on the Oilers too. Oilers payed for it, but they got the much better player

I'd recommend putting that in the BS column. He is the same guy who said Hanifin had an extension in place to stay. I don't doubt at all the Flames are still interested in him staying but I don't think they've changed their offer. Doesn't make sense.

At the TDL yes but not in the offseason. I think Coleman would have a great market in the offseason. I just don't think the Flames will entertain moving him.

I think the chances of Coleman being moved are extremely slim. I can't say that definitively of course but I don't expect him to be moved. I think the team loves him, sees him as a key part of what they are doing, and by all accounts he loves it here. I don't think Mang is in the same boat.

Wondering if we may see Mangiapane's name out there more in the next 48 hrs. UFA following next season and while I do like his game, if your going into a retool and can get an asset or 2 for him I think he makes sense to move. His spot alongside Backs and Coleman is a perfect integration spot for young players.

Huh. I must have missed the 25 year old 60 point center the flames had to deal for him.