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They undervalue everything Flames so it's no wonder. I doubt they blame the coach for results, just that he didn't play Matthews on a certain shift. BT will make deals all day long with Connie. He values his contacts, hence why we dealt with ARI so much.

Points taken. Just trying to de-escalate. And regarding Benn and Draisaitl, they are two players you have to look at their body of work to make a choice. I don't like Draisaitl, but that's my feeling he is a little baby that only plays when he gets his way. Maybe not even valid, but that's my feeling about him based on too many views.

So, you aren't always serious? I am disappointed. We have some doozies of arguments here (you and I), but I think we both tend to walk away.

Okay guys, please respect each other's opinion. As a Wings fan Conumdrumed would have a strong opinion of players. If an Oilers fan called out someone like Gio for trying to break McDavid leg, we would call them out. So, it's really not that different. As a Flames fan, TC would have strong opinions about the types of players we should be looking at. Many times we veto players like that. And many times those opinions get called out. We don't have to agree on everything, but let's take the temperature down. The back and forth doesn't make it any better. Let's drop it an move on. Both have made their points.

Hanifin for Nylander. Brodie seems to me to be part of the problem in TO. He's a better player than Tanev, but I don't think he sacrifices as much to win a game. I always remember him chuckling on the bench after a particularly bad play resulting in a goal. That was here I was talking about. Kadri might be a player TO is interested in, but I somehow think they don't see him as a solution.

I would say that you consider him as an A/coach this year. Whatever main coach you sign, only do it for 2 years. Not saying Love would agree to it, just that it gives him time to get NHL time in. At most, the wait is two years. At least, the wait is 1 year. But I am making suggestions, where it should be the new coach or GM that can name the assistants. Other than coach of the year and his great record in the AHL, I don't know enough about him.

What I am really asking is what teams out there are looking for a new coach that already haven't identified their replacement. If there are a handful, then yes he would get consideration.

I think you have to keep separate any Backlund deal. You devalue him in a package. TBH, I have no idea of what Connie can do bartering for other plyers. BT seemed to always be trying to do things a certain way. Either use a package of players (Hammy ++) or use picks or prospects. Neal for Lucic was one of the few that seemed to be a normal style one.

I don't think a guy like BT worries about being in the public eye. You do the work and get deals done. Fire the coach as required.

Well they are looking at him, the same way they looked at Ward when we hired Gully. It's not just Love, though. Are there that many teams that are willing to hire a coach right out of the AHL? Perhaps ANA, but they had Dallas Eakins, who is not exactly an establish NHL coach. Being fired by the Oilers is not a great resume. Saying that, it all depends on what GM's think about hiring another AHL coach.

I'm not sure that is a valid one. You can't preface a condition for a situation that only exists if they re-sign him. He is signed for a year only. If you said 50 games, then that might be doable. If they trade him, he would not meet that condition either, but it was their doing.

Can't do conditional picks on signing. Can only do it on playing X games or reaching certain playoff goals or scoring. You are correct about not being able to make a deal prior to the draft. Makes the pre-signing impossible. If DET was to make the deal on faith and it turned out he won't sign, then they have what we would have after July 1st if he won't sign here and we don't deal him prior.

Isn't Shanny the go-between? But autonomy in the Center of the Universe doesn't exist. At least he could fire coaches there every 6-12 months. At this point I think Leaf fans would love to see Marner traded.

The stats crew doesn't have the luxury of watching said players. It's a reasonable concern that stats don't show a breakout, but also valid that stats show very little. I know it's not easy top predict how a certain player will perform here, nor is it always just the player. It could be how they perform in certain systems. Jarnkrok and Milano are two that jump off the page. TT in Seattle is another. I am a bit quick to blame pro scouting, but it may not be a valid argument. No player is 100% off limits. Trading Lindholm isn't worth it if it doesn't improve the team in the mid term or long term. Instant gratification is unlikely. So, a solid 3C + very good D + top 20 pick is a good alternative. Doubt you get a top 6 player in return that is younger than Lindholm in any trade. Maybe. Maybe BT will trade for Hanifin. They don't really need a top 6 C, and they love offensive D, so maybe Hanifin for Nylander makes sense for both sides. That probably pushes us to make changes elsewhere. Kylington may not be a good short term strategy, but this is also a bit of a rebuild, and Kylington showed pretty big strides in his one year as a Flames top 4. Don't need him to replace Hanifin, as Weegar-Ras is probably our top 2. I'm not hung up about age, as long as there is a good chance the player will age okay over 3-5 years. Lindholm doesn't have the same wear and tear as Monahan did. Nor is he anyway near as sacrificing as Tanev. I would be more okay in moving him if we had a bonafide #2 waiting in the wings. So, your suggestion makes sense long term, but leaves us in the Iggy situation of no top C. We would have to address that sooner than later.

Your handle does make sense. LOL. Too bad for back injuries.

So, who was the coach during all of this? Which coach was there when Bennett was supposedly given the 2nd chance. Did he see any positive change in usage? Which coach refused to name a captain?

I know what you mean. Have 3 jerseys with 13, 23 and 19 and several name t-shirts. Some of them bought when they were marked down big time. Maybe they knew what was coming LOL.

I think the cabinet vote is likely a done deal. It's one of the first things the government will undertake.

I'm not sure Gallant satisfies this. We have to get it right this time. Too many former coaches that were let go. Peters didn't get fired by CAR, but a two time resigning coach isn't a good fit either.

Trading Lindholm sets us back more than any other trade unless it's an improvement of both age and ceiling. For instance, if you were to trade him for say Necas, I think that would be a win and a smart move for now and the future. Or for a projected #1C in a draft. Otherwise, it's a signal that we are good in going backwards for the foreseeable future. I prefer to go into the season without signing Tanev and Zadorov. Tanev is something we should be considering as a trade asset, should we end up as a bubble team. If we are a near contender, then keep him and re-sign him to one or two year deal in the summer prior to UFA. Zadorov is a guy that will have a monster season or similar to less than he did last year. We can re-sign him during the season, as he likes it in Calgary. Backlund is a risk, but I don't think you want to handcuff the team or future team should they trade him. Keep your options open. Toffoli is an easy re-sign. He's not going to get long term and not break the bank. His play suggests he can continue at the same level even given some slowing down. Hanifin is a trade chip. Of the players we can use to improve the F, he is the one that has results that can net a decent return. I would argue that he is the easiest to replace what he brings. Stecher and Kylington are both cheaper versions, and Kylington's ceiling likely hasn't been reached. His defensive game is prbably also able to improve a bit more than Hanifin's.

Small delay with all the defeated cabinet ministers that would need to vote on it. Giess you can get the parliamentary secretaries in their place? Not really sure. Not your typical situations.

I head as much. It may have been due to days of practice available. But they didn't practice it unless they ran into a streak of not scoring.

We chose to replace him with a free agent. If it was a trade then we traded Kadri for Monahan and a 1st etc. Can't really look at it that way of course. We sold an asset that had little value due to being a huge risk at $6.375M I hated that we traded him, but he was a huge risk if he played at a 4th line level. Him being the full year on LTIR wouldn't make us any better off.

The comps for him are all around mid $8M. He was negative when BT had quit and Sutter was still around. Not saying Sutter was his biggest issue, but I think he had an issue with messing with the roster after 6 games and never going back there. That's just opinion, but not really out of the blue. If your feeling that 8-9M is unfavourable, then you won't be happy. I really don't get your fractions. 1/6 is it? 1 - he signs, over 9M 2 - he signs less than 9M 3 - he doesn't sign, we are trading him 4 - he doesn't sign, we keep him 5 - he may sign and does for over 9M 6 - he may sign and does for less than 9M 7 - he may not sign and we trade him 8 - he may not sign and we keep him 4/8 are favorable to us, as in we don't overpay and don't lose him for nothing. Are you guessing the return in any of the trade scenarios? Are you thinking there is any way we don't have him signed and go past TDL without trading him? 6/8 favourable then.

Say what? If he signs, how are we giving him away?