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15 hours ago, travel_dude said:
One thing about coaches that bug me is playing the line that just scored a goal next shift. Reward if you like some other way, but I think it generally ends up being a shift spent chasing. It's something I notice a lot with this team. Not always reaults in a goal. Sometimes it's just a change in momentum.
Anyway, I dislike the pantomime from Smith after he gets scored on. You let in a goal. Get over it. I don;t care whose fault you think it is or whether you are PO's at yourself. Be more determined next shot. That's all the team wants.
I think that's the very first time I ever noticed that with the Flames. Usually they go with the 4th line.....
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1 hour ago, hockeypriest2 said:
Let’s just agree that this will be an awfully long season if we need 5+ goals each night to get a “W”.
The poster that called Smith “Hot Garbage” was absolutely correct. When Rittich played like that last year the fans and media were all over him.
This is supposed to be a 3-2 league...In order for this team to be successful the GAA needs to be below 3.00
It looks to me like Smitty has started this season just like he ended last season and that is not a positive sign for the Flames.
The NHL has reduced the goalie equipment to allow more goals. I'm guessing last year's averages are now irrelevant and it remains to be seen where the new numbers level out.
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2 hours ago, cross16 said:
While I do agree that "hot garbage" is a little extreme because the Flames were not ready to go last night, Smith was not good enough. The Flames deserve to be down but IMO it was Smith's poor play that put it basically out of reach. Most goalies probably hold that game to 3-1 worst case 4-1 because even his stupid puck handling cost the Flames a goal. Being down 3-1 or 4-1 is a different story.
He needs to be better. Period, end of story.
The fourth goal was his fault, but saying the game was Smith's fault is laughable. The Flames were not skating hard till the third, they could not bury multiple glorious chances (penalty shot, 5on3, etc....) before then and the Blues came out hard and determined. Full marks to them and at least the Flames showed up in the third.
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On 2018-10-10 at 11:20 AM, travel_dude said:
You are right. We should not concerned giving up 43 shots, low quality or crashing the net, regardless of when.
Was it a bad game? No.
Was it their best defensive game. No.
Agree to disagree.
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Ignore the snide comment above. Just suggesting that we really need to reel it in a bit. Smith shouldn't have to face that many shots.
I fully agree that should not be a long term trend. I just believe that between score effects for most of the game, the “extra” 4 shots on the 5on3 and the opponent being the very best offensive D in the whole league... that only 43 shots was very good. Against the “average” team with those conditions it would most likely be down around 30. Agree to disagree. Tonight I’d expect fewer shots because of the team but in-game effects matter a lot.
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2 hours ago, travel_dude said:
The Flames never shut down offence. The 5v3 call started in the O-zone.
I watch the game more than the stats.
Score effects only occur when you shut down offence.
If 43 shots is a great defensive game, then I hate to see a bad one.
That's not to say they didn't play well in their zone.
Not a perfect game, but I will take it. The PK and PP stood out. That is as important as Smith stopping 43.
Gotta score to win.
They had 5 SOG on the 5v3. They had 7-21-15 shots during the game. The vast majority of the shots were from the perimeter. They had very few rebounds or plays in close. Their D, the top offensive D in the whole NHL, was activated almost all game. The Flames D played very well..... and Smith did too.
Why is this contentious?
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9 hours ago, redfire11 said:
Bennett
Peluso
Ryan
were the only 3 Flames that did not register a shot, hit or point. in the Nashville game.
Bennett actually scored a great goal but the refs screwed up and blew the play dead for no reason. Bennett had a good game, Ryan too.
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7 hours ago, travel_dude said:
Let's not read too much into a win.
43 shots is not a great defensive game.
29 chances to 15 is not a decisive victory.
Props to Smith.
Score a goal and he shuts the door.
Get a 2nd goal and he keeps them from getting one back.
The 3rd one was too hard to come back from without a quick goal coming back.
We saw that so much last year. On the wrong side of the ice.
It was Score Effects almost the whole game. It was a 2:00 5on3 against.... In the third they tightened up and shut them down....... It was one of their best defensive efforts in a long, long time. Get your eyes off the stats and look at the game. Very impressive puck pursuit, one on one battles and attacking the puck, against the best offensive D corps in the entire NHL.
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On 2018-10-07 at 5:42 PM, kehatch said:
If you are playing Bennett based on what he could be your making a mistake. That is a poor idea for any prospect / player, but especially one that has been in the NHL for years. Take Dube, he is getting his time based on what he has been able to do to date. That said, I like what I have seen from Bennett. I think he should be getting some time because he has been playing well. If the coach doesn't want to mess with his top two lines then lets put Bennett with Ryan/Neal on the third line.
I believe its a still early feeling out period with the 12+ pretty good players BP has to work with, with several being new to the Flames. No line is set fully, but a few trends seem to be emerging. The trends are in respect to scoring, defensive play, face-offs, line chemistry and other matters. It is still a work in progress. In addition, the overall team play is still a work in progress in terms of how BP wants them to play to be most effective. I don't think the team is there yet either. As far as results go, the results are mixed but not unusual for any team at this point. I think the best NHL team (results) out there today is Carolina, but I'm doubtful that will stand. Once the team gets its first ten or twelve games in we'll have a much better picture.
The four trends that seem apparent to date are, first, the team is scoring way more than last year. Secondly, the PP is way more diverse than last year. Thirdly the coaches seem way more involved and responsive to changes in game. The final trend is that there seems to be more resilience than last year with the Flames fighting harder right to the end. Defensively, personnel-wise, TOI, goalkeeping, systems changes and PP/PK are still trying to get settled. The Flames sit 3rd in the Division and 6th in the Conference at this point, after 2 games..... Let's see where they are November 1st........
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13 hours ago, Cowtownguy said:
To a certain extent, that is true. More importantly, I think that Bennett has untapped potential. When placed with anchors, he shifted his game in a way that does not play to his natural strengths. I don't think that he is a case of misidentifying offensive potential. I think that Mac has a point that he became a lower priority when we acquired Tkachuk. Now that we have more offensive prowess, we should put him together with players who can help him with his stunted development. I also think that putting him with Tkachuk might remind him of how to play a more three-dimensional way.
Having said that, maybe he did just mature early and this is his ceiling. To exploit all of our potential, I think it wise to give him a shot with some bonafide talented people. If he still does not pan out (i.e. he does not have the talent or his potential is permanently stunted), then put him in the direction of Backlund. I don't think Backlund ever found his groove with the Flames. I think we messed him up a little. There are plenty of tools who can play a defensive game. The talent should be nurtured.
These first two games it seems that he is building good chemistry with Jankowski and seems to be meshing better with his line mates which I thought has always been one of his main deficiencies. Thought the line played pretty well today, had some chances too. Looking forward to this continuing.
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14 hours ago, Cowtownguy said:
Perhaps, but we might need to consider how we bring in players to the team. It is a shame if our highest draft pick in team history amounts to be an average player. If that is the case, then we are no better than Edmonton. I still think that he can progress under the right conditions.
It seems like your angst is because of draft position waste, which is a wasted opportunity, more than anything to do with Bennett himself. But try as the NHL does, forecasting 17 year olds 3-5 years down the line is very difficult, to say the least. We hope we do well on average even if any specific choice turns out to be much less than anticipated.
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20 hours ago, robrob74 said:
I was at the game and I noticed him on the ice when he was there. He stood out as much as over half the roster when he was given the chance. 8 minutes is not much.
Yes Petterson did more with approximately the same amount of time, but also had the puck in different situations where we had poor choice breakdowns.
Youre just not willing to give Bennett more credit because you’re expecting more.
See, I didn’t see it the same, especially since we went 0/7 on the pp. they’re on it every time. They didn’t mske much happen until the third when it was too late. I fully expect them to do what you’re saying they did with that much time on the ice and the amount of touches of the puck.
We got outplayed plain and simple, until we were down 3-0/4-1.
I have nothing against Bennett, I just like to call it like I see it. If you were at the game and focusing on Bennett then you obviously had a better view. Question: what do you think Bennett (or anyone for that matter) needs to do to get shifted up?
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2 hours ago, kehatch said:
Smith let in 4 goals on 22 shots. At least one of them was pretty questionable. I didn't see any 'holy crap' saves in there. I get there were defensive break downs, but when you keep it to 22 shots and every mistake goes in you aren't going to win a lot of games.
I don't blame Smith for the lost. The Flames couldn't score on a tonne of power plays. The defense on two of those goals was terrible. Plus we just weren't winning the puck battles. The game was sloppy and low effort across the board.
But Smith doesn't get a pass. He was mediocre at best and will need to be better of the Flames are going be successful this season.
Thats a pretty reasonable assesment.
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13 hours ago, robrob74 said:
I was at the game and from what I saw from Bennett was more jump than anyone else. I think he pushed the play ahead, but apparently It’s not enough.
i think it’s going to be a lot like what Lazar said, he needs to touch the puck more and get the feel and the feel to score points. I get it, he doesn’t do enough on his opportunities when he gets them.
I dont see Bennett doing anything this year. We lose him for next to nothing and don’t know what he will do elsewhere.
Why is everyone so fixated on Bennett? Overall the team wasn't competitive in 1 on 1 battles nor in coordinating good passing plays. The Bennett fixation does nothing to address the overall issues, but I guess at least its a shiny object that distracts fan anger elsewhere giving others a chance to meld and grow together? If you watched the game, Bennett did little to stand out. If you base your analysis on limited stats, he stands out. I don't recall a single moment in the game where Bennett was dangerous or made a dangerous scoring chance, whereas I recall many from Monahan, Dube and others. Perhaps Bennett isn't getting the love because he's not doing much to push the team forward? Hopefully that will change, not only for him but for the whole team.
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15 hours ago, kehatch said:
Hopefully the preseason isn't a projection of the regular season, because our goaltending has been crap.
Not totally, but it certainly hasn't been stellar and does seem to be the team's clear weakness. BP must be having nightmares and hoping Smith & Co. can hold the fort....
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3 hours ago, travel_dude said:
The impact of being older and traveling. Tkachuk played his first game with 3 hours sleep, yet he was the best player on the ice. I have been worried about goaltending all summer, but I won't go on about it. With what we have, I thought Rittich and Parsons played the best. That's not really saying a lot. And it's just my opinions.
Parsons is so athletic, but is like Hasek. All over the place. Rittich has shown more technical play, but had a bad game against the Oilers, where he had little help. He still needs to make those saves, but it was a tune up game for him. Gillies played well against a NHL team missing three top players, behind the entire Flames NHL roster. Smith has looked rusty. Was not impressed last night at all.
Good comment overall, though I got a chuckle comparing him to Hazek, probably the best goalie of all-time as some sort of negative. To me, whether you are more conventional with “technical” play, or “all over the place” the bottom line is can you stop the puck? Even more than that, thinking of Fuhr, can you make the stops when the game is on the line? Who cares what the style is?
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17 minutes ago, The_People1 said:
Ya that's the government indeed. The right hand doesn't talk to the left hand.
Putting my tin foil hat on for a second, I feel the government is training us for CalgaryNext by hitting us hardcore with the $5.3-billion Olympic bid. After another 3 months, CalgaryNext will feel so cheap and way more useful. We will beg for it as a city.
Sounds like a good strategy.
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5 minutes ago, kehatch said:
Of who we have I would agree. Based on waiver eligibility and play last season. But right now I don't like anyone as our back-up.
One thing to keep in mind is the China effect though. Smith talked about the jet lag having a big impact on his game.
The goalies definitely need to come around, and mesh with the team's d play which is still a work in progress. The massive shifts in line-ups probably doesn't help much and hopefully that is near finished. As to the goalies, I thought the past two outings for both Gillies and Rittich were pretty solid.
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4 hours ago, travel_dude said:
Guess I haven;t seen him play better.
Gillies plays behind a veteran team in China. OT loss.
Rittich plays the Oilers with a mix of AHL players and PTO's. 6 goals against.
They split the 5-2 over the Nucks, each allowing a goal against.
Rittich plays the Nucks and stops all the shots. Parsons gives up 1.
Gillies has played well so far, but no better than Rittich.
If he gets sent down, it's because they want the guy that they feel can survive as a backup, not waiver status.
Even more important is that they feel Gillies will improve with more games played.
Rittich plays the Oilers AHL team and gives up 6 goals, including several bad ones. Gillies plays against a top6 NHL teams from last year, gives up 3 goals, none bad. Hey still early just can’t agree with your comment relative to actual play. Looks like Smith had a tough night tonight. Hoping the goalies come around.....
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7 hours ago, travel_dude said:
That's the way Rittich has been in his career with the Heat. Great one night, bad the next.
As it stands now, Rittich is the only choice. As good as Gillies looks, he's not ready.
Rittich is, but needs to play good every night.
Gillies has played just as well as Rittich this preseason. No, I take that back, he's played better. If Gillies gets sent down and if nothing else changes its only because they can without going to waivers.
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1 hour ago, The_People1 said:
Or if we build CalgaryNext, the field house part should be a giant canibus grow-op. We harvest twice a year during the Stampeders off-season and that helps pay for the building.
Not sure about pot, but hanging hydroponics gardens certainly are feasible.....
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5 hours ago, The_People1 said:
$5-billion is probably on the low end in 20 years. But we need to start saving now.
I can't stress enough that the new arena needs to be powered by some kind of renewable energy. Maybe the roof is a solar panel. And if so, excess electricity generated can be sold back to the grid for money which in turn pays for the building itself. Since the building generates electricity maybe it can be an electronic car charging port. Maybe all city buses convert to electric and charges at the new arena as a base.
Being energy self sufficient, monthly bills can be kept to a minimum.
Now that's progressive thinking, which should be looked at. Many months back I had also thought a total redesign ie interactive electronic seating and more space might also be interesting, which could open up whole new avenues of entertainment and potential revenue streams.... Let's enter the 21st Century.
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1 hour ago, travel_dude said:
And.....
Back to goaltending.
I wonder if they give Glass a start?
Yes, he's only here as a PTO, but we have to be open minded and look at possible solutions.
MacDonald hasn't shown he was worth goving a contract to. May never amount to even an AHL goalie.
Other considerations. Oscar Dansk. Buried in VGK's system. Made a handfull of NHL starts and was pretty good in the AHL.
Signed to a 2-year deal with VGK. Trade consideration?
I like the Glass idea, but with only 8 games left before the season and at least 4 goalies ahead of him it’s doubtful. Rittich has redeemed his first start and will likely get 2 more, Gillies 2 more and Parsons at least 1 which leaves only 3 for Smith. Unless there are injuries, a trade or someone seriously falters I can’t see Glass getting a start.
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12 hours ago, Horsman1 said:
the fact remains.. we don't have an NHL qualified goalie in our system/.. Yes.. we may have some possibilities that will be ready in the future but none are ready now.. We may as well just turn the net around backwards and have opposition have to bank the puck in off the boards.. We Don'T Have A quality back up goalie!! We need one NOW!!!
hahahahahahahahahaha.... reading the fake news US MSM is much worse than reading trash like this, but its getting close.
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14 hours ago, The_People1 said:
Oh I totally agree. Our D is not defensive enough and that includes supposed defensive specialist Hamonic. He has already made critical blunders in preseason that was exactly what we saw last season. Saving grace is Brodie looks more confident again with Gio.
But if Hamonic keeps playing this bad, then that drags down Hanafin.
Stone is too slow. Kulak inconsistent. Andersson inexperienced.
I don't know where the solution is but to me, Hamonic has to go. That's where real changes can begin to happen. He's just too reactionary rather than anticipated. Like Gretzky used to say, "good players go where the puck is. Great players go where the puck will be.". I even see Hanifin anticipate very well but Hamonic relies on physical abilities to react. There's no sixth sense. Not sure there ever was but you've got a guy who has knee surgery and it took away his physical abilities. In other words, nothing to rely on.
Nothing like the start of the season to see the bs starting to flow, the casting about for scapegpoats and the smartest guy in the room syndrome grabbing hold of various fans. But that's fans... god bless 'em all.
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