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Truth is, the flames are drafting better now than they have in the last 2 1/2 decades, its hard to be to critical of Tre when every GM before him has elbowing the bed when its there turn to stand at the podium
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2 hours ago, DirtyDeeds said:
This has been my pet peeve for a long time now.
- Money was labeled a 3rd line center and 2nd line at best long before he played one game in the NHL.
- Gadreau has been labeled too small for every league he has played for.
- Gio was labeled by the experts as not good enough and had to go overseas to realize his potential.
- Janks has been labeled a 4th or maybe 3rd line center since he was drafted.
You already gave the best example of stereotyping gone wrong. Backs with Frolik and Tkachuk have been our #1 line all season, taking on the oppositions top lines and most of the defensive zone starts turning them into offensive zone starts.
I don't recall anyone saying Backs would be our best center or even a good #2 center. To this day a lot of posters still want to get rid of him.....
And this is why I hope we afford Bennett the patients to develop and find his game. All the tools are their for him to reach his potential and this team has another couple years before the core reaches its prime years. Maybe he's not a true #1or 2 right now but given the time I see no reason why he cant be in the future.
Janko reminds me allot of Kyle Turris, they play a similar type game and like Turris its going to take time for him to grow into what ever role the brass see fit for him. but tell me you wouldn't want Kyle as our 3rd - 4th line pivot? Mark has shown an ability to raise his game to another level every time he has graduated to a higher league, while being counted on as a go to guy, fact is every coach he has had since being drafted has shown that they trust him and his game. He may not be ready by for the Flames by next training camp, but I would figure he works himself into the first call up possibility soon after.
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12 minutes ago, cross16 said:
Not unless he wants to take a below market deal or didn't want to play as much. His options are limited, especially if he wants another shot at starting or being the guy. Only so many of those jobs.
With the amount of movement expected this offseason in regaurds to goalies, I think wr can get Elliot locked up to a very reasonable contract. His awful statt to the season could be a blessing in disguise, keeping his cap hit under the $4mill mark
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On 27/02/2017 at 7:42 PM, travel_dude said:
Bartman hasn't been bad. I don't know if he looks any better than Kulak, but at least he plays big. After this season, we have to add to the roster to replace Engelland.
Neither Bartman nor Stone really fit that spot. Maybe Andersson is ready. Maybe Kylington will be more NHL capable than Kulak.
I don't see either Hickey or Fox in the picture for a few years. I was kind of hoping Ollas-Mattsson would come over soon and sign here. He's a big body player that might replace some of the grit Engelland brought.
Fox is a ways a way but I think Hickey maybe the closest prospect we have to making a jump onto the big team. Scouts have been raving about how far along his defensive game as come and he has been putting the work in, in the gym. I would'nt be suprised to see him here at the end of the season with the black aces.
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2 post season apperances (hopefully) in 3 years? Give the man a 3-5 year contract and let him build a perennial contender...
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22 minutes ago, MAC331 said:
I agree to a certain extent unless there is a good deal out there that you have assessed as an enhancement for your goal. This is a good tandem and we are now entering that turning point where the team is playing as a team and when Elliott usually is at his best. I would have to think BT will not rush into a decision on our goaltending and let's hope Elliott and Johnson gives him plenty to think about.
Id be open to breaking up this tandem if you could pry a guy like Scott Darling out of Chicago. Someone who has proven they could carry a backup role and is chomping at the bit to take over the starter job. But I have zero interest in a MAF/BenB type that is already demanding salary and term.
This team needs a competent 2-3 year stop gap and thats exactly what I see Elliot as...
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9 minutes ago, MAC331 said:
Bartkowski is signed for next season at 612,500.00
Oh snap, thats right... I forgot they signed him for draft purposes. So much has happened in such a short time.
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1 hour ago, AlbertaBoy12 said:
I dont think we want to lock up elliot long term, but thats just my opinion. Elliot is not the answer in net, and locking him up at that price for 3 years is probably not the best idea. Has he been solid recently, yes he has but hes not a long term answer. Id be ok with bringing him or johnson back for another year but thats about it.
No offense, but I completely disagree with that assessment, this team needed time to bring it together and get on the same page, now that the coaches, players and goalies have some familiarity the team looks to be turning a corner.
Elliot left a good situation in St Louis that has been under the structure of a hall of fame coach for years and walked into a rebuilding team, playing a new style for a new coach.
If Elliot and Johnson get us into the playoffs, I think they deserve the oppertunity to come back next season and show what they can do, infront of a team that should be a little more polished than they were at the start of this year.
You cant just run goalies through a revolving door until one has a Veizna like season, these guys need time to learn how to win together, as a team.
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I like what Ive seen from both defenders, they are a serious upgrade over the old man and fringe talent waiting on the farm.
Id be ok with bringing both back into the fold if we paid based on where they slot in over the next two seasons.
Stone $3.25 for 3 years
And Bart id give league minimum, 1-2 year to play bottom pairing mins.
Anything more and I would pass.
We have 3 Dmen in the AHL and NCAA who have an opportunity to make the jump into a top 4 roll over the next two years and I would hate to over pay for a couple of ok insurance policies.
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If the Flames make the playoffs then I resign bith Elliot and Johnson in the offseason...
Elliot $3.5-$4.25 for 3 years
Johnson $1.5-$2 for one year
I'm very comfortable with this tandem and what Ive seen frim them this year. Big picture, this was a tram that came out flat to start the season and has taken allot of strides, learning how to win together and I belive keeping Chad and Brian in the fold will pay dividends in the near future.
This team is on the cusp of turning the corner and will be scary good, just wait and see!
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On 10/27/2016 at 11:51 AM, cross16 said:
Really like that Klimchuk's offence is showing up. He's a really talented kid that is he can stay healthy I thikn will have a big year down in the A. Underrated guy, mostly becuase he's been so banged up the last few years.
I think expectations were unrealistic given he came from the same draft as Monny, I think Klimmer will need a couple years to ripen and can see him being a Setmpniak type player once ready...
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I listened to Johnny's interview on Philly radio and what I seen was a kid trying to say all the right things to not alienate a fan base after he was put on the spot. I have seen no inclination that he doesn't want to play in Calgary.I predict that JH will be traded to Philadelphia for RW Wayne Simmons and D Shayne Gostisbehere. Phily gets there boy and we get 2 players we could use and not have to pay an arm and a leg. Now before you guys try and shoot me I think we solve a few problems 1 is we need RW the other we need a player that wants to be here not some where else.
Everyone keeps harping that BT should have paid Big and Local what that aves did to stay but listening to an interview with him earlier in the summer, he was pretty open about the fact that there are added pressures and distractions that come along with playing in front of your home crowd. Stamkos could have "bolted" to the leafs and we all seen how that turned out.
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I think people are to quick to try and move these contracts. Let them pylons walk next July and then we can take care of the in house business and add another key cog or two. This isn't the summer to do that and I believe our opening night roster is already in the organization.
On one hand it would be nice to move a Smid or Wideman but in the same breath it doesn't hurt to let the pups in Stockton marinate for another season and see if a guy like Poirier or Culkin can have bounce back years.
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Whoa, chill out guys... It's ok, I know how the lines are going to be set come season opener. Here you go and your welcome.
JG/Mony/Brouwer
Shins/Backs/Froly
Tkachuk/SB/Poirier
Ferly/Janko/Prybil
Oops, sorry... My Crystal ball showed me 2017-18 season opener.
So, just like the rest of you, all I can do is speculate.
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Last offseason he added some decent depth contracts and turned out big because of injuries although I still think he over payed, but given our position at the end of that season he had to pay a little bit more to lure anyone here.
So far this offseason I would say Brad has done a tremendous job and used our playoff run as a position of strength to add some very solid and key pieces to ensure we stay competitive in the upcoming season.
Dougies contract is a beauty and its safe to say less then most everyone thought it would take to get him locked up. Backs contract is also great value, Im glad to see him walk away with a few more years in flames silks.
All in all I dont know how anyone could disagree with what management has done, the future looks promising!
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I"m not suggesting at all that Hudler will drop off once he is signed. I don't really questions Hudler's motivation to be honest because he proved here when times were not very good that he still showed up motivated and ready to go it is not a questions of motivation. it's a question of what is it going to take to sign him and how smart it is.
For example, Mike Cammalleri was coming off a not very impressive year at the age of 32 (just like Hudler will be next year) and he got 5 year 25 million dollar deal. If its going to take a 5 year deal and probably close to 6 (when you consider Hudler's numbers to Cammy's) then I don't think that is smart at all. For me, I'm not even sure its smart to go to 4 years because at 4 years Hudler is probably worth in the 5.5 -6 mill range and at 35/26 years old I really have a hard time seeing Hudler being worth more then 5.
Absolutly TD if you can get Hudler for 3 years go for it and I'd even be prepared to give a little extra $ on the AAV to get that done but I think 3 years is the max I'm prepared to give and Hudler and camp may want more and that would be fine if they did. The debate for me has nothing to do with Hudler as a person it comes down to the fit within your cap and how much Hudler is worth. I don't think Hudler is the type of player you keep at all costs is I guess what I'm saying. That is reverserved for your Gios, Monahan, likely Gaudreau at this point, and hopefully Bennett. Hudler you retain at the right price and right contract only and if it exceeds your number you have to look at trading him. Of course you won't trade him for an upgrade, not likely anyway, but you could trade him and fill other holes on the roster.
I think 3 years at 5 mill is a reasonable expectation. For the first time in a long time the Flames are in a position of strength when it comes to contract negotiations. Calgary is once again a desirable destination.
A guy like Hudler who has found himself a big role on a team thats trending up may not want to mix things up much at this point in his career and hes gonna be hard pressed to find a better situation.
Id be surprised if he demanded top dollar's from the flames at this point in his career.
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I haven't seen enough of Brad yet to give him any kind of grade, I want to see him in an impact trade or signing first. He really has yet to do anything that involves our top 6 and has really only brought in depth players. I do appreciate his patience and reluctance to sign long term deals but I am starting to worry he maybe a little trigger shy?
With the way this season has gone it will be interesting to see which direction he goes with free agents. Does he continue to look for truculence or add some high skill players to the mix? As of right now I don't really see Brads stamp on the flames and am unclear in how he tends to try and mold them going forward.,
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I actually don't mind reporters thinking we are a bottom feeder team. At least we can develop under the radar and surprise teams who underestimated us by taking 2 points from them. Maybe it'll be enough to push for a playoff spot. I think that more and more teams are being more aware how much damage our Flames team can do since more #1 goalies are facing us rather than backups facing us.
Its one thing for reporters to overlook us but 29 other teams won't, they have scouting reports for a reason and word gets around who's doing what. Let the media say what they want, if this was the Leafs they would've planning the parade right now.
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I say this dcore has earned the right to show us what they can sustain over the season, right now we have the highest producing top 4 in the league, not bad for a group that was written off before the season even started.
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He's on a "crap" team with bad D now too. Especially the bad D part.
Lol cant really argue with you there
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As much as I agree that Ramo has allot to prove on this side of the Atlantic, I really wish people would drop his last stint in the NHL, he was on a crap team with bad D and was still pretty young when he took the reigns, if a more mature and seasoned Ramo can't handle it then by all means throw him to the wolves....
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You just know that Ramo is going to get around the $3 mill a year mark. I have a feeling it may even be a half a mill more then that....
I'd like to see them all signed at 1.5-2 for a season and let them battle for a payday, but that will never happen!
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I say we resign Jmac and see what we have in Ramo and the swiss dude, Joey has looked pretty stellar at times and could handle split starts with Ramo if he turns out to be an option. Im more then comfortable with how he has played this year since coming in and think that with the way he has handled himself in the midst of all the drama he has earned another contract.
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