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11 minutes ago, rickross said:
Overall BT has done a good job, he’s still one of the better GMs in the league imo. I haven’t lost complete faith in him and he’s a genius if you want to start throwing names like Chiarelli around lol
I think anyone needs to be judged on a significant body of work and Trevliing has done a good job but with some gaffs here and there. My concern for this coming season is that he really hasn't improved the team over what we had last season. He seems to be banking on the players being more motivated from having their butts handed to them I the playoffs. I hope he has a few more significant moves up his sleeve before the season starts.
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18 minutes ago, rickross said:
Goon!..I seriously could not find a better way to describe his expected role. It’s not on the level of the goons of old but he’s not being relied upon for his pretty passes or being quick on his skates. He’s here to intimate and hopefully chip in offensively from time to time. He’s likely more serviceable than just a “goon” but I’m not expecting the 50-60pts Lucic of old.
I actually don't know what to expect.
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12 minutes ago, travel_dude said:
Good to hear from you MAC
Good to hear less from you TD
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6 minutes ago, travel_dude said:
So, we are hoping that the Lucic of the Oiler playoff year and the Talbot of the same year and the Davidson of that year all show up to make us a better team.
I hope all are rebound candidates, but I'm more concerned about Talbot.
Lucic just has to play the same style as the line he is on.
Play with Bennett and the other team is spitting chicklettes.
Play with Ryan, and he is creating room for Mangiapane.
Play on the PP, he's PO'ing the goalie.
Whatever thx for your point of view and more love affair with Mangiapane. I really hope he turns out to be the player you think he will become because he isn't there just yet. Here's hoping he can be a 4th line sensation for us.
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14 hours ago, rickross said:
Love it or hate it he’s a Flame! There’s almost no one who’s terribly excited about the trade however let’s welcome Milan with some open arms and minds!...because hating on him isn’t helping anyone!
Consider the potential of having Tkachuk AND Lucic on the ice...a top pest with a top goon could really be a handful for teams to handle. This gives a little more free reign to our smaller skilled players like J. Hockey but it could allow players like Tkachuk to elevate the intangibles they bring....a fearless Tkachuk will only help him live up to the value of his upcoming contract extension.
Lucic adds another net presence we need, we need someone to clear the crease and he could be useful on the PP, he’s hard to take off the puck and he’s a screen for our shooters to use.
His physical presence goes without saying. He hits and he fights and talks smack. It’s an element the Flames lacked, he’s not cheap but he’s atleast elite in these categories.
He’s sure to be motivated. Edmonton is a graveyard for careers, he’s still young enough to be productive and be effective in his own end. He also knows Mcd and Leon’s tendencies....he could be a great for game planning against those Coilers.
End of of the day Lucic at $5.25M is still better than $6M, cheaper than Neal now and if he’s not scoring he’s atleast bringing a physical skill to the team.
Maybe yelling out “Loooooch” will be more fun than we think....
Lucic will add an element or presence our team needs but to refer to him as a "goon" is actually sad. Let's hope we see some of his offensive talents come back into play because we know what he can bring physically.
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On 7/3/2019 at 7:40 PM, Thebrewcrew said:
Good to hear because it starts with the right attitude. Parsons is our future and we shouldn't lose track of this one.
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9 hours ago, robrob74 said:
I do see it as an upgrade or the very least as even to last year. It is a waste of the core plus a lot of picks spent on goalies in the past how many years. With the way the team has placed an emphasis on drafting skill, the picks we’ve spent on goalies could’ve possibly garnered some very skilled players and we could still be at this same place we are now.
i am not happy either, because at the time I didn’t want to use those picks on the goalie(S) that we did use them on. Our D and team play tends to exploit average goalies. We say we had a good goal differential but then look at how many games the score was lopsided in our favour. Good to score goals, but we still have up some bad ones. We were lucky to outscore mistakes. But I am as positive as you are so I can see your problem with the situation.
The one big point I see in it, we didn’t have to give up assets to acquire a stopgap. No prospects are ready.
Youre right, we’ve ruined them since Vernon. Kidd was the last best drafted goalie and he was average because we rushed him. But we need something to hold us over,
what are you willing to give up to get a true long term #1? We sure as hell aren’t going to draft or develop one in this core’s lifetime.
Maybe one will by the time this core is in need of another contract.
I think the assessment of our goaltending past and present is getting way over stated here. Rittich has come through and looks to be a well structured fundamentally sound Goalie and Talbot now provides an experience element with some past NHL success. Any team vying for a SC needs a sound defensive game and good goaltending while in the playoffs both have to be outstanding. I would say we have some good prospects in the farm system, most importantly getting reps and seeing rubber should have them better prepared as they inch closer to NHL action.
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16 hours ago, cross16 said:
For better or worse, it’s pretty clear that after the season the flames decided Rittich was their guy and they were going to give him every opportunity. I don’t think they were ever in the Lehner or Mrzaek sweepstakes because they weren’t looking for people who want to start, they were only looking for someone to backup Rittich
Given the market for free agents(ignoring trade market as I have no idea) I think it’s the right call.
Certainly looks that way.
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19 hours ago, phoenix66 said:
no disagreement there .. improvement is needed .. much of it internal .. that's something BT needs to continue to work
My reference is that , No , Smith did not have a great regular season .. but he showed up in the playoffs and showed what "taking it up a level " looks like .. and most could not wait to run him out of town ? why ? because of a poor regular season .. its kinda hypocritical
I'm certain the only reason he is not back is because of the cap .. 2.75 is much better than $4M
Listening to Burke over the weekend with respect to fans and sportswriters turning on players and coaches is like the "kiss of death" for them, there is no coming back and you might as well deal them.
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6 minutes ago, robrob74 said:
I also think we could be close as well. The playoffs the team had could also be a wake up call to the group. Hope it was. It took nearly 3 games to get back on track. The team did very well in the regular season getting out of ruts. We assumed it would’ve happened again.
i think Talbot could be a good signing. I’d gamble on a two year deal on him. I’d prefer 3 but there’s a need to keep options open if Rittich and Talbot fall.
I'm not sold on Rittich just yet of whether he shapes out as a regular starter or a very good back up, thus keeping things short term. Parsons should make strides this coming season and this Russian kid is 23 already so another reason to not get to long into contracts.
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8 minutes ago, robrob74 said:
I am one of the most critical and negative poster on here. Sorry for that. I do want this team to be a model of consistency and a perennial threat. I just don’t see it yet with this group and we do have good to great parts. There are holes and will always be holes.
But one of the things we don’t have is drive or killer instinct. I’d say Johnny and Benny are the ones with the highest compete on the team. The problem is that Benny has never taken the next step. Others have it as well, but we just aren’t quite there yet.
Plus the coach refused fused to fix parts of the roster that wasn’t working and then became a one line team.
There are a lot of great parts. The mix needs tinkering.
So sorry about it. I really don’t know what can be done to fix it. How many moves can Bt realistically make?
I think Talbot could be a good add. I’d honestly hope it is for a few more seasons than a 1yr.
We love to say if we could just get league average goaltending. I kind of think Talbot’s numbers could fall somewhere in the middle of those numbers with and not with Edmonton, which would equate to about league average.
I would be more inclined to have Talbot at 1.75M on a 1year keeping it short term and Rittich at 2.5M on a 3 year deal. This is how I would position our Goaltending for now.
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14 minutes ago, JTech780 said:
I will own my part of the negativity. Sometimes I can take things a bit far to try and prove my point.
I think Rittich will have a big year this coming season. That being said I think we are looking for a 2nd goalie to be part of the tandem. My guess is that we won't have a goalie that plays 50+ games next season unless there are injuries.
I am nervous about Talbot, but I think there is a decent chance he could rebound and be a solid goalie for us. I mean we just seen Lehner and Mrazek have very nice rebound seasons.
Having Gillies or Parsons or Zagidulin as 3rd options gives lots of chances that 1 could turn into a Binnington in the off chance that things don't go according to plan next season.
I was just going to say out of this list Talbot on a 1year deal would be my choice. If the signing is confirmed I think we have a good situation for our net.
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19 minutes ago, cross16 said:
Why is everyone so salty recently? I get the playoffs sucked but man sometimes it's hard to come here with so much negativity all around.
This thread is a good example. Mad about Talbot, mad about Gilles, mad about development and we aren't chatting about how Rittich looks like the starter, was one of the best goalies for over half a season last year and without injury sure looked like he was going to be a starter.
Personally i'm really excited and encouraged with having Rittich and giving him a chance next year. Good story.
OK so if you provide Rittich the full opportunity to be your starter do you go with an experienced back up or give Gilles as the next in line of your prospects a back up role to also gain experience ? I have a feeling money will not be spent on our net in order to fix and rearrange our D and Forward situations.
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10 hours ago, JTech780 said:
How many different accounts can 1 person have MAC331, GM_3300 and this one...
He played 1 game on that road trip, and sure he played well in that game, but 1 game doesn't make a career. From just about every game I have watched he starts the game shaky, let's in a weak goal and then starts to get on track. It's that shaky start that is hard to get past.
Nice try but not me. You have another admirer who doesn't share your points of view, go figure.
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10 hours ago, flames-fan-in-jets-land said:
Isn't that what the entire pre season is about? Obviously if you have a bonafide starter theres not as much pressure in camp but this year it could be 4-5 young inexperienced goalies fighting for one spot. As in previous years Gillies will try to earn his spot just like any other hopeful, but so far he just hasn't. He's had chances, he just has to take the next step.
Limited chances at best and that is no measure how long term could turn out. Rittich was in the same boat and stepped up, Gilles could do the same.
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Just now, JTech780 said:
Oh I would absolutely love to get in the net and take shots from NHLers, if I ever had the opportunity I would do it in a heartbeat.
Being prepared doesn't always guarantee results, Gillies has been given chances at the NHL level he hasn't looked good.
Past results are the best indicator of future success, Gillies' past results haven't been very good.
And yes the goalie should be one of your best skaters.
I disagree he hasn't looked good with the small samples . What I saw was mixed and what anyone should expect. You seem to be of the opinion one should be perfect before awarded any kind of long look. Every goalie gives up soft goals these days so hardly a reason not to have him play at the NHL level. If he has the fundamentals down put him in there and let him adjust to the pace of the NHL game , its the only way you find out.
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5 minutes ago, JTech780 said:
Should they give me my opportunity? You'll never know what I can do at the NHL level till you give me a chance.
You have to earn your chance, Gillies hasn't.
I would love to see you between the pipes taking some pucks to the teeth it might be the only way to silence your expert opinion over everyone else's here.
Step right up.
Unless you are there everyday with someone like Gilles you don't know squat about his preparedness. Many wanted someone other than Rittich as a back up. You take small samples and form opinions like they are facts. Does the Goalie have to be the fastest skater on the team also ??
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10 minutes ago, phoenix66 said:
playing devil's advocate .. its possible he's getting stale. Binnington certainly wasn't lighting up the minors
He came in with the "next one " tag... got outplayed by Rittich in the A, lost the backup battle , now hes got Parsons on his tail .. the A can be a grind
when he did come up , he was under the immediate short hook microscope
he knows the team has essentially no confidence in him
one can argue that's a mental toughness thing .. but it could be we have left him there too long .. we likely will never find out but getting the backup gig solidly in his hand might be whats needed to turn him around
Many here get caught up in their own expert opinions and generally have no idea what it took these players to come this far. Everyone is a critic and I say until you give someone the opportunity you will never know what he can do with it. Athletes have a lot of pride and fighting through the mental disappointments all weighs into what you become as a person. I doubt Gilles has given up on playing in the NHL and at this point he should get his chance. He has nothing left to learn in the AHL.
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5 hours ago, cross16 said:
It is really funny to think back about how much emotion was in that trade for both fan bases and that it essentially fizzled into nothing for both. Hilarious.
Another reason to not get to worked up about prospects.
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2 hours ago, travel_dude said:
sDobber Prospects had the following to say about Zagidulin:
June 2019 – Artyom Zagidulin was signed to a one-year ELC by the Calgary Flames. The 23-tear-old goaltender had a breakout season in the KHL by posting a .924 save percentage with a 1.96 GAA. As a free agent, he was lured to the NHL by Calgary most likely due to the uncertainty of their NHL tandem moving forward. At this point, his athleticism and calm movements set him up for success at the NHL level.
Zagidulin is a butterfly-style goaltender who protects the bottom of the net very well. He is an agile netminder who moves quick post-to-post. He has a tendency to sit a little low once he goes to the butterfly and that might be something he works on improving moving forward. Overall, he has a similar style to Flames prospect Tyler Parsons and should provide strong internal competition should an injury arise at the NHL level. – Joel Henderson
At 23 maybe we should just go with him along with Rittich, sounds good to me.
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23 minutes ago, rickross said:
Lots of talk of Smitty potentially signing in Edm as he’s familiar with Tippett and Playfair. Apparently Cam Talbot is a potential suitor for the Flames...so Oilers and Flames could swap goalies essentially. Personally don’t see Smith signing there after he got another taste of the playoffs. Feels like we deal with this goalie question every year! Most important position and we just can’t solve it’s puzzle. Maybe Curtis Mchilliney makes a return ....
We should snagged that Stolarz from EDM he was rock before he got hurt last season.
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14 minutes ago, rickross said:
Lots of talk of Smitty potentially signing in Edm as he’s familiar with Tippett and Playfair. Apparently Cam Talbot is a potential suitor for the Flames...so Oilers and Flames could swap goalies essentially. Personally don’t see Smith signing there after he got another taste of the playoffs. Feels like we deal with this goalie question every year! Most important position and we just can’t solve it’s puzzle. Maybe Curtis Mchilliney makes a return ....
Smith should retire if he was smart. Doesn't EDM have two Goalies signed now at significant money ? I'm hoping for Mrazek here.
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11 minutes ago, JTech780 said:
That's the problem there isn't, there is maybe 10 goalies out there that I would classify as true number 1 goalies that can play 60+ games. The rest of the goalies are either backups or goalies that should be used in a tandem.
The NHL as a whole is going towards using tandems. Of the 4 teams that made it to the confrence finals only Martin Jones played more than 50 games this season, and that was only because San Jose didn't have any better options.
That being the case would it make sense to structure a Goalie's contract on a base for X number of games played and bonus up for additional games played over and above ?
Is this allowed ?
Brad Treliving - GM Tracking & Evaluation
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Let's call it the "Giordano" window to win a SC.