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Backlund will get inked again or traded, so it's 50/50. I don't know if Philly values Backs as much as our coach and GM do. Does Schenn have good faceoff ability? His stats don't show that, but limited usage may account for that. If you want to kindle the BOA, adding Manning would do it.
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If you are suggesting a combo of Elliott/CJ, then you can keep them. If you are suggesting CJ as a backup, you can keep him. CJ played himself out of contention with his games in December through March. Not sure I would bet the farm on either of those backups with Gru. Too much risk. Retooling teams do not trade their heir apparent. LA, ANA, and NYR were not retooling when they sent their 2nd best goalies away. They had starters that they could not give enough games to. DET may be forced to buy out Howard. Or they could trade and retain $$.
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Schneider I will not comment on, as I think he isn't in play. But, I would say the same about Mrazek, unless they have issues with his attitude. He was their #1 last year, so why would they trade him for futures? The Andersen deal was a little bit complicated, as it included 30th overall, and a 2nd in 2017. Part of the deal, though separated due to the $2m bonus owed Berner, included getting Bernier without sending anything unless he played in 50% of the playoffs or was traded and reaches the SCF, as well as plying in 50% of the games. The reason for Anaheim trading him then was that Gibson was set to be the starter and they wanted to get something ahead of the expansion draft. And they got the pick in a strong draft. There is no reason to trade Mrazek. Elliott was set to be the starter last season. They even had talks with him about re-signing in October. A good backup should "net" you about 30 games, unless you live in EDM. If you want to pay the 3rd in 2018 and the cost of Gru, then fine. Let them play about 40 each. Or you can go for another "starter" over Elliott and only pay the $$. I don't blame Elliott for the playoff first round exit. But, no way would I endorse bringing back both him and CJ.
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To begin with, you are pinning hopes on a career backup, except with Mrazek or or MAF or Scheider. Elliott was a career 1a/1b goalie, and CJ was a backup that played a starter role when Lehner went down at the start. There's every reason to believe that Gru or Raanta could be starters, but are you (BT) willing to bet another season on a guy you think is ready to be a starter? Mrazek and Schneider (if either available) will cost you a lot of assets. DET will either expose Howard or trade for the best offer Mrazek. Schneider will probably cost lest due to age and salary. NJ is years away from being a contender, so they can afford to shed his salary now.
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We did assume that Elliott would be a starter too, but signed CJ as a 1b/backup. I would love to get Grubauer, but BT can't pin his hopes 100% on him. Signing a Mason or whatever as a 1a/1b option hedges that bet. BT strikes me as a careful GM, and signing a FA goalie costs nothing more than $$. A Gru trade shouldn;t break the bank. If you have your goalies signed for less than $6m, then we can fix the rest of the roster without leaving the net to chance.
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Mason has played as a starter most of his career, playing at least 50 in the last 4 years. His numbers in Philly may not be as good as Elliott's in STL, but I would argue that STL is a better defensive team. I don't have a big beef with Elliott and I think he could be in line for a big bounceback season, but he will cost a 3rd in 2018 even if we sign him as a FA. Mason costs only salary.
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Ok, so I am going to backtrack a bit. Trade for Grubauer or Raanta. Sign Mason in FA. The total cost would be likely less than MAF alone.
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No to the deal with the Flyers. It's probably fair to both teams, but I don't know that Schenn gives us enough back for losing two centers. Yes to the Hanifin and/or Murphy. RM would need to be protected, so that might need to hold off until the 22nd. Hard to know what the cost would be.
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I'm all for adding a 4th D. A real one. I don;t have a problem with Stone as a 5/6 guy, other than the possible cost to re-sign. He may think he can get $4m, but I would not want to pay that for depth. Bart is a 6/7 guy as far as O can tell. I think that Andersson could be in the top 6, assuming we don't sign Stone. With Engelland in the lineup, Gully still played him close to 17 minutes on a nightly basis, regardless of what line he played on. I would prefer to get away from that and use the top four closer to 50 minutes.
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I guess the NHL teams do not agree. For some reason, none of the players you are suggesting is drawing any interest. Since I am not a scout, I would ask what any of these players bring to the table. The older ones tend to have a solid history of pro play, regardless of the league. The younger ones are less proven at the pro level, and would require years of development in the AHL before they could be ready. Signing a Russian prospect is fine, if you can get them over here and pay them $70k for years before they ever make the NHL if ever. I would compare the early career with Andersson or Kylington. Neither is guaranteed to be in the NHL, but have been offensive forces. Both are still young for the NHL. Bottom line is that all of these guys are risks in one way or another. Our development system is slow for transitioning them into NHL players.
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You don;t follow the rumours then. CHI was/is interested in Rutta. The lure to going to CHI is less after they have been eliminated in the playoffs 1st round two years in a row.
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Do you think that the Hawks are a god judge of talent? Perhaps the Oilers are just following around the Hawk scouts.
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If one season at a particular age had anything to do with success, then there would be a lot more players thriving in the NHL. So, assuming we could sign him, where does he even fit? Development in the AHL? Seems to me we have a logjam of young players not particularly offensively gifted, all trying to make to the next level. Next year we could have Fox and Hickey jamming things up even more. ON one hand you consider the Czech league to be not impressive, but somehow Klok gets raised to be a top prospect in the AHL? Maybe you are a great scout, but I'm missing something. His career totals do not look that impressive. If you think that because the OIlers are interested that it makes the decision stupid, consider that the Hawks are also interested.
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Signing a 26 year old defender or a 24 year old winger is not an unreasonable thing to do. They have developed their skill in another league, so you are not committing years of development to them. If they are good enough, they will adapt soon enough. You talk about getting a 21 year old, but what's his status? Is he signed to a contract? BTW, there is no similarity between the two players' numbers. Your guy scored about .33 p/gp in his best season (current). Not going to continue arguing about a player we haven't even signed.
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CHI is in on him. I have heard that teams have submitted offers, but EDM had not yet.
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For one thing Bishop said he was looking forward to playing with Lehtonen, assuming he won't be claimed. If the choice is Niemi alone, that would be a non-starter for me. I know that the Stars's bigger issues are defense, so you can't blame it on their goalies, but holy crap, trading for either or both of those guys is a nightmare. I know the issue for you is eliminating Brouwer, but at what cost. I would rather give up a prospect to LV to take him, if we don't want him here anymore.
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Interesting that Parson, Frolik, and Lindstrom are represented by the same agency (Octagon) as Rutta. I would suggest that Pribykl was not a flop, as he had injury issues to compound him moving to NA ice. I believe they used him at center, instead of RW too.
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If we trade for a goalie before the draft, then we would only pick one. We can solve the backup spot in the summer. If Vegas wants Elliott or CJ, they can have them as pending UFA's. Suits us just fine. I don't see them persuing either after July 1st. I would be okay with MAF, assuming the cost was a 3rd in 2018 or less. If not, then here is my shopping list: Young Starters (possibly 1a/1b) Raanta Grubauer Korpisalo Saros (most costly due to exempt status and future with team) Ready to be #1 Mrazek (most costly because he was gifted the starter job) Schneider (possibly available because NJ in rebuild mode; may need to have NJ retain some salary) Mason (UFA signing or trade very little for his rights) I guess I am starting to feel like we either go for a starter-in-the-making or one that has years left on his treads. The three bona fide starters I listed have had good seasons on meh teams. No offense FF52.
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If you are thinking whether we have to protect him, then no we don't.
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No, but I would like the tough part of Smid of old.
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Every team is scouting, I think. His linemate signed with CHI. I would be okay with the signing to buy us some time, and if he was physical. Maybe a young version of Smid (when he was physical).
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We had several chances to win games against Ahaheim, but failed to deliver. Scoring one goal in an elimination game isn't impressive. I suppose you could argue that the meltdown was all on the goalie, but what happened to the pushback after the Ducks scored to make it 4-3? No matter who we get for next year, we better fix the lineup (or usage) so we aren't overplaying role players when we need scoring.
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We lost to the Ducks for reasons other than goaltending. Game 1 was the infamous 2 on 0. A late game 5-3 didn't lead to a tying goal. Game 2 was the weak call on Dougie to allow the Bouma deflection. And then the Brodie call to snuff out the comeback. Game 3 was letting Anaheim back in the game, much like EDM did in their loss to Anaheim in OT. Game 4 was 2 goals against. We lose a shootout to EDM and give up 3 goals on 5 shots (CJ) in another game. Those are the relevant games. No goalie seemed to be able to help us in the first month of the season, but somehow MAF wins those games. People were calling for Gully's and Cameron's head for the systems used. Maybe MAF would have fared a bit better. Or not. Would you have given up Tkachuk for MAF last draft? Would you give up a 1st and/or high prospects this year? I'm not saying MAF wouldn't be an upgrade to the overall body of work that Elliott provided. I just don't know what his results would look like next season. BT has one chance to build the goaltending at a reasonable cost and he needs to bat 1000.
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That helps clarify it. But those #1's that you talk about lost to PITTS and MAF. As well, a team like PITTS has been one of the top teams in the East for a long time. MAF was obviously part of that. Unfortunately, stats only show so much at 100 feet.
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Not sure what you are showing there. Is that MAF against those teams and those are his wins? If so, what does it prove? The Pengies won against the Pacific? If it's those teams against the Flames, how does that support your argument about MAF making us better?
