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31 minutes ago, travel_dude said:
Here's the passage that bothered me, and not about Gaudreau but about the process...
And this is the truth, I promise: I cherished the time I spent in Calgary. For a long time, Meredith and I saw our future there. We wanted to re-sign last summer. We were looking at homes to start a family. But it just didn’t work out and we thought this summer might be different.
Agreed, They likely had him last summer and played hard ball. How do you let a star of this age go into his last year?
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2 hours ago, The_People1 said:
I'm starting to move on as well. Gaudreau also didn't get everything he wanted and had to "settle" for Columbus which wasn't his first choice. Money was left on the table. I don't believe he's laughing all the way to Columbus or anything like that. Karma hit him a bit too.
Also, I've always thought he was a goner so I'm not as shocked as most. Was told by everyone don't worry but him leaving was always over 50% for me.
Totally agree, he looked pretty shell shocked at the press conference if you ask me. Maybe just a different dude, that’s why he was never offered the C.
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I actually think there is a real chance that they offended him last year with extension talks. He was the best player on several sub par teams with how many different coaches and had a poor year with clearly a sub par coach and then a transition during covid where his travel was restricted and BT probably played hard ball thinking in the end he could throw the big bucks at him and save the day. By all accounts KoKaleinan is a good guy in Columbus and I think Johnny went there because its closer to home, no potential travel issues and he liked the guy. I just can’t see why people are slamming him without first thinking of his side.
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14 minutes ago, CheersMan said:
LOL, are you judge and jury?
Johnny had no intentions on re-signing, he used the Flames to the final minute in an attempt to find his market value then dodged to Timbuktu. If it was not about the $$ then why lead the Flames down the path, just say you are testing FA 7 weeks ago and let teams get on with their business, it probably would have ended much better for him. Instead he declares no contract talks during season, then screws the Flames for 7 weeks, only to decide on CBJ in 12 hrs? He played by said rules but it was not genuine to a team that gave him everything.
Sorry if I offended, I know this one hurts, I would have loved for him to sign. I was just emphasizing the business side, he said he would let his agent deal and I suspect he did. He got as much as he could and he is set until the end of his career. Its business and Johnny was smart, contractually he earned the right to act this way. The Flames on the other hand were not so smart. How do you make this mistake with your best asset when it was so clear that he was a risk to not sign and he was in the position of power?
Although I am not a big BT fan I will say that he did well with Adam Fox in a similar situation. I suspect Johnny and his agent really put one over on BT but that was the risk of a guy who has the ability to sign for the remainder of his career.
apologies if I offended.
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Johnny had a good year, honoured his contract, negotiated hard and used a top offer to parlay a financially sound move to a team of his choice. He won the business end.
I don’t like it but I completely understand it and I am pretty impressed.
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So many good points above.
So clear he had to be moved prior to the NTC deadline. He/they gambled with the teams best asset and lost.
Sutter is the reason for the great improvement this year. Where would we be if we had proper management during the previous years?
BT had his chance and has failed in so many areas so has to fall but I really wonder how many of these GM’s are handcuffed by owners?
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Is anyone else seeing all the picks the Oilers keep setting and no calls?
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Sure is fun being a Flames fan!!
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Just now, The_People1 said:
Tanev was amazing tonight. He's clearly not ready to come back but he stabilized Kylington who played a much more confident game. He gets paired with Stone and instantly gives up the GWG.
I have been so impressed with the team and Sutter but man I find myself questioning his decisions and coaching tonight, can’t believe I’m feeling that way.
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Oilers want it more
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Total mental collapse
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I don’t think the Oil have been that good, Flames have been really bad. I’m amazed when they played so well vs Dallas and had so much confidence after game one. What on earth happened?? Drinking water at the hotel?, Lack of Oxygen- really weird .
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2 minutes ago, The_People1 said:
Backlund was fantastic actually. Even that shift after the goal, it wasn't just him that stopped playing for some reason but his entire line.
Toffoli really kills our PP. He is just a one trick pony who has very poor vision of the ice. He really shouldn't be on the top unit. When he has time, he rushes it. When he doesn't have time, he hangs onto the puck too long.
Totally agree
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Horrible start, walking on eggshells, no confidence, no authority, watching pucks instead of playing the hard smart system. Gotta hand it to Tanev, we are better even when he plays with one arm.
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Just now, travel_dude said:
On the GWG, it was Lewis, Lucic, Dube, Stone and Kylington out there.
That’s the line up you want
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Gotta hand it to Backlund best playoff performance I have seen from him. Toffoli on the other hand….bad
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Quite embarrassing
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6 minutes ago, travel_dude said:
Backlund?
Seriously, don;t we have shooters?
No Kidding, how can he not put Mony in there. Sutter lost this one with his Backlund fixation
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1 minute ago, MP5029 said:
I’m kinda liking the McGinn idea, but he’s another LW…
the trouble here is yes like the type of players they are bringing in but it’s in a position we are already far too deep in, there must be something brewing involving Tachuck, Gaudreau and or Manji and Lucic, no way you bring in Coleman and not move Lucic no cap room or position room
Sure feels like it
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I was impressed with him in the playoffs but also on a great team. Again, ok with this one and if it doesn’t workout he likely is someone teams will want for a cup run.
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Hated when we played Zadorov, I like that we got him. We need this size and toughness and a third rounder is fine in my books also good for some of the younger Russians we have. Good step forward for BT.
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Maybe if he had the C he would calm that down? I agree its an issue but when you get chopped as much as he does, I also understand his frustration.
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Weird draft for all, I kind of like the way the Flames went as goalies are a gamble and we have Wolf and Parsons. Just disappointed that we didn’t pull off something like the the Reinhart deal. I remain very worried about the future of Johnny H.
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Tkachuk I don’t think falls in the diplomatic sphere does he? I also think he’s a bit young.
Backlund does but he’s hot and cold and not sure he’s the sharpest knife in the drawer, I wouldn’t want that in a Captain. I could be wrong on the intelligence meter.You really have to understand the players and the room to make a C choice just intrigued why johnny is never mentioned.
Johnny Gaudreau
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I think both of those mattered. He strikes me as genuine. The team made mistakes and Johnny looked after Johnny. I don’t think we would win a cup with Johnny as the center piece and therefore we may get some Karma on this one as that was a big offer. Lindholm is a hell of a player and lets see what happens with Chucky, seems like management is on the ball on this one.